one of them, i think, is senator chuck hagel could do that kind of job. >> chuck hagel. chuck hagel was his answer who he would put in his own cabinet now, and now, here we have behind me john mccain getting ready to grill his old friend chuck hagel because he simply is worried he is not the man for that same exact post in president obama's administration. the answer to your question fundamentally comes down to what happened in and around iraq. john mccain was very much a supporter, you'll remember, a proponent of the military surge that he believed saved the iraq war from getting even worse than it was. at the time, chuck hagel said it was one of the greatest foreign policy blunders since vietnam. it really what is their shared experience, jake, in vietnam, that's what drew them together. that's what sent mccain out to campaign for the first election in 1996. but it was that same experience that tore them apart policywise, on iraq. because hagel, as an enlisted man, thought that war should be the last resort. then you have on the opposite side, mccain who saw war and th